Healing our Relationship with Food and Connecting to our Intuition with Dr. Claudia Thompson | #2

NOTE: This podcast was transcribed by an AI tool. Please forgive any typos or errors. Cara Dempsey 0:01 Welcome to Floductivity, a place to inspire and empower women to embrace self love and self development, for the perfect balance of productivity. I'm your host, Cara Dempsey, and I share ways to connect to your intuition through self care, cycle planning, spirituality, wellness, and everything in between. Thank you so much for joining me this week. If this is your first time, welcome. And if you've been with me here before, thank you so much for coming back. I'm so excited to join him in this journey as we learned together. I'm so excited to bring on Dr. Claudia Thompson. She's an expert at food freedom and intuitive eating. She is a total nerd with all things nutrition science, and helps teach women how to be their natural weight without using diets and crazy meal plans. She provides inspirational content to help women tap into their best versions, and I can't wait to dive in. Hi, Claudia, thanks for coming. Claudia Thompson 1:11 Hi, I'm so happy to be here. Cara Dempsey 1:14 I want to know what your non negotiable self care practices in your daily routine. Claudia Thompson 1:20 Oh, that's an easy one. For me, it's journaling. And this is actually a practice that I started at the beginning of 2021. So this isn't something that I've been doing for a very long time. It's just a little bit over a year now. And I actually started doing it pretty begrudgingly, if I'm being honest, I was hearing from every self help guru and successful business person that they started their day journaling instead of picking up their phone. And I thought, Okay, well, if everybody's saying this, like there has to be some meat and potatoes to this actual practice. And so I actually bribed myself with an iPad, I told myself, okay, if you, if you fill up this paper journal, you can go ahead and buy yourself a new iPad. And within three and a half months, I filled out an entire paper journal. And I have to say, the practice of setting your intentions for the day before you grab on to any sort of technology or anything like that has been completely life changing. And it's not something that you have to write like pages upon pages, you could just be a couple of sentences, a couple thoughts from your dreams, whatever it may be. But making the commitment to doing that every day has been very impactful in my life. Cara Dempsey 2:42 I love to hear that I'm a big component of journaling, I tend to forget about it. I have other things that I do. But I've found that I think a lot of women have problems like being in their head too much, because we always are trying to do too much. And the practice of journaling, kind of lets you process things on paper versus in your head. So I really love that. I love that. That's a something that you kind of bribed yourself to do. Because I think so many women don't realize how impactful it can be in setting their intentions. Claudia Thompson 3:18 Yeah, I mean, even I didn't even understand how impactful it was going to be until I started doing it. So if, if you're not journaling, I highly recommend it. Just take a couple of minutes. Write a couple things down. But yes, getting things out of your head and onto paper pulls it out of this space where we're allowed to like overthink everything, and it puts it down in an actual physical form where we can go, Okay, this is what it is. And I can just move on from it. Cara Dempsey 3:45 Yeah, that's so great. So I know your goal is to help women. And I want to know if there was a defining moment where you knew that you were meant to help women on their path, Claudia Thompson 3:57 who I think there were a lot of defining moments, because the way that I help and the way that I coach has definitely evolved over the years. So I started coaching women specifically in nutrition, about eight years ago after I got my license as a registered dietician. And I started off doing traditional nutrition counseling, where it was more medical nutrition therapy based. And I knew that I wanted to be in that field because I had struggled for decades myself with disordered eating and I struggled with a disordered body image. But when I started out, there wasn't a lot of there wasn't a lot of mentorship in that particular area. So I started out doing the medical nutrition therapy, so where you're dealing with more with like health conditions like diabetes, kidney disease, those kinds of things. And Once I realized there was an entire community of non diet dietitians, I went full bore into helping women heal their relationship with food and their bodies. But that definitely took me healing my relationship with food and body before I could do that. And that was really the, the moment where I realized like, Okay, if I can heal my relationship with food and body, then so, so can everyone else, because I'm not special in any way. There, there is a stepwise process that you can do to do this. Cara Dempsey 5:33 Wow, that's so empowering. And I feel like so many women that want to help other women had to overcome their obstacles to be able to do that they saw the other side. And so that's so empowering. I also know that you are very much into self love. And I know that when I healed my personal self love relationship, it allowed me to overcome reoccurring stories I played into. And so do you feel like creating a self love relationship is important for women in healing their food relationship. Claudia Thompson 6:07 So a self love relationship is the only relationship that really matters at the end of the day. Because if you are spending your days saying negative things about yourself, or having negative stories, play on repeat inside of your head, you actually create more of that kind of life. And it's very difficult to actually be truly healthy and happy without dealing with those negative stories and loops that play in our head. And that was something that I had to heal myself, again, it's a stepwise process, you heal your relationship with food. But in order to heal your relationship with your body, you have to heal your relationship with yourself. Cara Dempsey 6:52 I really felt like, you know, I had, I had done a lot to after having my son to try and get myself healthy. But I found that I was weaponizing food in that, and I wasn't really going anywhere, you know, I was withholding food, withholding certain things. And I really do feel that there's a powerful thing behind loving yourself. And I think that was, that was the lightbulb moment for me of when I started to actually look in the mirror, and thank myself and, you know, show myself that I'm worthy. And so I really hope with people like you and you know, that can help women understand that loving themselves is the first step in any journey to healing themselves. Claudia Thompson 7:39 Yeah, because if you if you don't love yourself, you aren't honoring your body's needs, because you're not listening to them. So something as simple as a cue of hunger, for example. So a lot of us have been taught by diet, culture and the society that we live in, especially women. If you feel hungry, that you're supposed to ignore that hunger, and when it comes to other body cues, things like you need to go to the restroom, we don't ignore those cues, because something really bad will happen if we ignore those cues. And the cue to eat is the same as the cue to go to the bathroom, it's your body's saying, hey, I need you to go do something, I need you to take care of me. And when you really heal your relationship with yourself, you learn that it's okay to listen to those cues. You don't have to follow rules and regulations of dieting, that you actually just have to tune into yourself. And when you tune into yourself, you're able to hear those cues, you're able to understand what your body needs, you're able to understand what foods make you feel your best, not just physically but also emotionally and mentally. Because it's a combination of all of it. It's a balance of all of it. Cara Dempsey 8:55 It is a really is. At what point do you feel like you took on you know, this body image issues in your life. I know for me, I it can go all the way back to middle school. But I know sometimes it could be later on that that might come along for some women, Claudia Thompson 9:17 some of my first thoughts as a human being that I can remember or negative thoughts and feelings about my body. So I'm talking like three to five years old. That's as early as it started for me. And I find this is actually really common with a lot of my clients and a lot of my social media audience is that we've really taken on the insecurities of those who were those of our caretakers at that age. And so if you grew up in an environment where your your your mom, your dad, your aunt's, your uncle's all had very negative thoughts and feelings about themselves and a lot of built up insecurities about themselves. whether they realize it or not, and they probably didn't realize it at the time, because it's not intentional, but we pick up all of those things. And so since I was in that environment that was really my baseline, my baseline was negative thoughts and feelings about myself. And so that took my, you know, a vast majority of my life three decades to overcome that. Cara Dempsey 10:26 Yeah, it's, it's hard, because I think with having a daughter, I am trying to be extra careful about the things I say, because I know that me personally, I can absorb those feelings and emotions from others be outside of that. So it is it's hard, especially being that young and being aware of Claudia Thompson 10:45 it. Well, when you think about it, these so it doesn't matter whether these are negative thoughts and feelings about your body, whether these are disorder, disordered relationship with food, where you have good and bad foods, and all these food rolls. Or if you have other things going on in your life that you feel like you can't overcome. These things come from what we absorbed from birth to age eight, because at that stage in our life, our subconscious brain is wide open, and we come here as a completely clean slate. And our job at that point is to literally absorb everything around us. So everything that we heard every facial expression, all of those things, set the tone for the rest of our life, because basically, you come in a completely clean slate, a computer with no operating system. So you install this operating system from birth to age eight, and that operating system comes from generation generations behind you. Because you know, your parents were affected by their parents, by their parents, by their parents. And so you are absorbing all of those things that you had no decisive ability to say, I don't want that. And so when you get older, and you realize that these like thoughts, feelings, patterns are repeating in your life, you get to go, oh, wait a minute, where did this come from? Oh, this, this came from someone else, this isn't even mine to hold on to. And then you can go ahead and do that work to go ahead and do that reprogramming. And that reprogramming is the same whether it's, oh, I don't feel like I'm enough. I don't feel like I'm smart enough for my job. Or if it's feelings of like, oh, I need to be thinner. My body's not enough. It's it's the same. It's coming from the same place. Cara Dempsey 12:40 Yeah, definitely. Do you have like a specific driving force that you felt like you needed to heal yourself? Claudia Thompson 12:48 So I think healing comes in layers. It's like that Shrek clip segment where he's talking about the onion and how you peel back the layers of the onion. And that's really the healing journey. It really is because you see this top layer and you don't see all the layers underneath. And so for me, I really had to heal my relationship with food and my body first, that was my top layer. And a lot of people can have this as a more internal layer or more, it doesn't really matter what order it comes in. But you get to it when you get to it. And mine was just the first thing that I had to heal. Once I heal, that it exposed, the other layers and those other layers were okay, I've been in an abusive marriage for 13 years. There's all this generational trauma that I have to work through and all of these layers of, of why I was in the life that I was in. That was just the first thing that I had to heal. Cara Dempsey 13:54 Yeah, I think there's a misconception of being more spiritual that it's this like lovey dovey Lala world. And I find that the deeper I go in, the more healing and it's a lot. It's a lot more difficult than I ever expected. Each time. I always think like, ooh, I've made it and then it's like, Ooh, Oh, ooh, that's a bigger one. Yeah. Claudia Thompson 14:20 Yeah, just kidding. We have we haven't we on Earth, another layer? Yeah, it's definitely it's not easy. But the thing is, is I think a lot of people at this particular time in our like, human cycle are breaking a lot of generational trauma generational cycles, where family, like their family lineage has repeated these things over and over and over again. And we're at a point where a lot of us are looking at these things and we're saying, hey, you know, this really just doesn't work for us and we need to change this. And it's a very difficult process because your entire life change As as you heal, because the healed version of you is not going to do the same things, it's not going to hang out with the same people, it's not going to tolerate the same kind of behavior as the unhealed version of you. And so yeah, it's definitely healing is painful. But it's a pain that proves to be well worth it on the other side, because you, you get to look back at it and go, Wow, like I made it through that. And that's something to be very proud of and grateful for. Cara Dempsey 15:31 Yeah, definitely. I would love to talk about some ways that you feel that women sabotage their eating habits. I know like, for me, personally, I would either binge or withhold food as a form of punishment. And have you found like a reoccurring you know, sign that this is happening to the women that you've helped heal their journey. Claudia Thompson 15:56 So when I actually I don't like the word sabotage, because when we restrict our food, or over eat, or food, or have rules and regulations around our food, that's a control mechanism. That's not really sabotaging. What what we're doing in those moments is somewhere in our life feels uncontrollable. And when somewhere in our life feels uncontrollable, we have anxiety, we try to reach for things we can control. And controlling food intake was probably the first thing we all learned. No, I don't, I don't want that applesauce, I'm not eating it. It was like the only autonomy you had as a child. So a lot of us go back to that particular coping mechanism in those moments. And I don't think we're sabotaging ourselves as much as we need to just develop better coping mechanisms around these uncomfortable feelings that we don't like sitting with. Cara Dempsey 17:01 You just totally read me like a book. Claudia Thompson 17:04 That's kind of my job. Cara Dempsey 17:08 Yeah, I never thought about it is, you know, that makes sense. I definitely find that when I do that, it's when I don't feel like I have control of external situations. And it is a way that I'm kind of dealing with my anxiety at that at the time. So yeah, and when we're Claudia Thompson 17:27 having trouble dealing with our anxiety, the best thing that we can do is actually just sit in that moment and learn to sit with that feeling. And it feels very overwhelming. Because again, these things aren't just things we're trying to filter out in our mental space. We have trained bodily reactions to these thoughts to these feelings, because they've been ingrained in us for so long, that your body is able to move forward with like, oh, let's send her to the fridge, she needs to grab a food, your body is putting that in action before you even thought about it. Because that's your your brain and body are deeply connected. It sends out neurotransmitters, hormones, all of these things to push you towards that same response because your subconscious brain understands that response is safe. Because that part of your brain only understands okay, yes or no dead or alive. Did this behavior keep her alive? Yes. So we're going to keep her going back to this response, even if, in our in our conscious brain, we're like, this isn't healthy. We can't keep doing this, or subconscious brain just understands. Well, we've determined that you're, you're still alive after doing this for so long. So we're gonna keep you doing that because the alternative is an unknown. And unknown means risk. Cara Dempsey 18:53 Yeah, definitely trying to you know, it's keeping us safe. It's thinking it's keeping us safe, but it's really not actually keeping us safe. Because, yes, what feels comfortable, makes us feel like it's safe. Claudia Thompson 19:05 Yeah, so sitting with those feelings there. It's, it's hard because you feel like you have an actual physical urge to get up and go do that behavior. And it almost feels like it's an out of body experience. Like your body's just doing it on its own because technically it is. And so in those moments, what I found, that can be really helpful, especially if this is a lot of people's tend to struggle with, with food at night. And so you're you tend to be at home, I found that just getting up from wherever you are in lane on the floor will actually help you disengage from that response because that's you doing a different action than you normally would. And it it places you at a spot where you have to literally just sit there and deal with the feeling. But the good news is is once you deal with it, it passes and it what it The more times that you take a different action and sit with those uncomfortable feelings, the less uncomfortable like the less uncomfortable those feelings get. Like they it gets lesser and lesser, the more times you do this, and then eventually that, that brain body connection that's going on with that behavior dissipates. Cara Dempsey 20:20 Yeah, a big component of replacing not so great habits with little micro habits. So just finding those little things like laying on the floor, sitting with yourself, even journaling of how it's making you feel, I think are great ways to kind of just take your consciousness to a different a different place, and so that you can start to make little changes, because I think so many women fail because they think they need to throw out all the crappy food out of their pantry, and they need to start all over. And they need to start that workout routine. And it's like, you're great for what maybe a week or two, and then you like lose that motivation. Claudia Thompson 21:05 We actually kind of have to back it up even further and not call food crappy. I call it fun food. It's fun food. It's not food that I eat all the time. But sometimes I want an Oreo, or sometimes I want chips. And that's totally acceptable. You can have those things and be completely healthy. We're supposed to have those things. And it's, we need to change the conversation around good for food is not good or bad. It's neutral. And once you neutralize it, that obsessiveness over the crappy foods Cara Dempsey 21:42 goes away. It's so true to look at it that way. Definitely. I think that is one thing of just trying to change my verbiage, especially that I have two little beans around me that I affect them more than I probably will know. So I no one's perfect. And I do not claim to be I just trying to be my best as I can. What are some ways that women can accept themselves in their daily life? How can they bring that love back to themselves, Claudia Thompson 22:17 affirmations are a great place to start. And this is going to be really uncomfortable for a lot of people. But you need to look in the mirror and you need to say I love you. You need to do it. And I have to say this is this was incredibly difficult for me when I started doing it, it felt really inauthentic. It's hard when you've spent your life with a lower self image to actually look at yourself in the face and say I love you. For anyone out there that's struggling with this, like move through the uncomfortability of it. Look at yourself in the mirror, say nice things to yourself. Talk to yourself, the way you would talk to your child the way you would talk to your best friend. You deserve to talk to yourself like that, because you are who you hear the vast majority of the day. Except for those folks that aren't having conversations in their head. I don't understand that that whole thing came out. Because I hear myself. More coward. I can't believe there are people out there that like don't have full blown conversations in their head all day. But for those of us that do it's really, really important that you're saying these things, because that's what you hear. Cara Dempsey 23:34 Yeah, I think that's so important. That's actually when my daughter was going to school in the, in the fall, I had recorded just on my voice memos app, some affirmations that we listened to on the way to school. And so when I knew I was launching this podcast, I made a full blown episode. And I brought her she's not talking on it. But she helped me pick that her favorite affirmations that I can say, and I actually made it because she was having to read in front of hundreds of people. And she's only five and I could only imagine how that would make her feel. And she had told me I'm if I mess up, I'm gonna mess other people up and people will be watching me and I could see that. And I would say like, my normal way to go with it was to be like, you're fine, you'll be okay. And I was like, No, we're gonna go at it a different way. I'm gonna say like, you will be a little scared. As we practice and we tell ourselves these affirmations to prepare ourselves and make ourselves feel good. You'll have the confidence you just have to kind of each day put a little bit more confidence in yourself. And she loves the affirmations listening to school and she did great speaking in front of the hundreds of people. Just seeing how much it can affect a five year old was huge. And so I'm really excited that that's one of my episodes that I'm going to be doing and it's just a few minutes. It doesn't take that long. Claudia Thompson 24:57 Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't take that long at all. I mean, we, we spend, I would argue the vast majority of people spend a very large portion of the day worrying about things that haven't even happened instead of being nice to ourselves. Cara Dempsey 25:13 Yeah, definitely, I don't know if you've read me or work by Louise Hays at all, but it's ultimately taking that she has, it's a 21 day practice that you, you know, you read, it's a little, it only takes a couple minutes, you read about it, she has affirmations, you tell yourself in the mirror, and then you actually journal about how it makes you feel after. And so I had started this book a while back, and then COVID hit our family, and it just kind of threw us back a little bit. But I took my son to do it, because I've done these affirmations with my daughter. And it's like, Guys need it too. You know, it's not just for women. Claudia Thompson 25:51 Yeah, and I actually, I'm so glad you brought that up. Because I would argue for the first vast majority of my career, I focus mainly on helping women heal, because that's who I resonate with. And when I ventured out on to the TIC tock platform, because the vast majority of my audience on Instagram is is is women. And so I just figured tic tock would follow suit. And it's still predominantly women, but the percentage of men is much, much larger than it is on Instagram. And I have to say that these men are struggling with the same issues, and they don't have the same support structures that we do. They're not supported to speak about these things. They're like this, it D masculine uses them to speak about these things, but yet they're still struggling with it. And so I've been trying to have more conversations with with men about these topics, instead of just assume that Oh, you don't want to hear about this, because this is a woman thing. Cara Dempsey 27:00 Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. Because they have been told like, Don't show your feelings man up, you know, be this and that. And that's good that you're bringing men into it. Because I've noticed with a lot of the courses and things I'm doing in growth, it's all to women. And I think in my head, is there the same support system for men? Because I don't see it? Do I not see it? Because I am a woman. And I'm, I'm not getting the same content as them. Claudia Thompson 27:29 I would say there's some stuff out there, but it's it's not as predominant. Especially when dealing with food and body issues. Cara Dempsey 27:38 Definitely, and I've seen it for for men sometimes just how they, how they perceive. And it also depends on their support system growing up to, you know, just kind of depends what you you've grown up with? How can we begin to teach our bodies and our mind to trust in the food that we consume, Claudia Thompson 28:01 we have to develop trust with our body again. So when you've been in cycles of dieting, even if you're not on a formal diet, but you're like self restricting, or you have food rules in the sense of like, Oh, I'm going to go ahead and ignore my hunger until noon, I'm just going to drink some coffee. Or I'm, I'm, I'm not going to feel completely full with my meal. And I'm only going to eat half of it. Because that's what diet culture told me. There's a lot of like sneaky restriction that goes on, even if you're not in a on an official diet. And when we do that, every time your body says, Hey, I'm hungry, and you say, Now, I'm not listening to you. Your body says, Oh, well, we can't trust her. We can't, I can't trust you, because you're not feeding me. And the body sees that as an absence of food in your environment. And what the body thinks it's supposed to do is to save you keep you alive. And so the more you do that, the more your body doesn't trust you, the more your body takes its own precautions to keep you alive. And that's when it down regulates your metabolism and does all of these things to conserve energy. And when it does that, to conserve energy, and then say you, you know, get out the chips and the ice cream and do all the things because you lasted all day, but you you couldn't last any longer. And let me be clear, that's not like a lack of motivation. That is actually biology pushing you to eat. When you do that you store more calories than you normally would because your body does not trust you. So we have to build body trust by actually listening to our body cues under learning, taking the time to learn those cues. And the cool thing is, is that's the basis of intuition. So the more you build that The more your intuition in general in life builds. It's all based on Body Trust. Cara Dempsey 30:07 I love the topic of intuition. I feel like when I began to heal my body with my cycle, my intuition started to come through. I felt like my whole life, food, everything, just that deep down knowing I always pushed it down and never really had a space. I always listened to what everybody else said, I didn't know how to listen within. And so I feel like empowering women to find how they can connect with their intuition, because I've always known that it's been in there for me. 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So I would love to know from you and maybe from women that you've worked with, like what are some ways that women can figure out how to listen to their intuition? Claudia Thompson 31:59 Oh, first off, you got to stop dieting. So dieting is a $72 billion industry a year. And that industry is set up to make you not trust your body. And if you don't trust your body, you're not going to trust your intuition because they come from the same place. I mean, intuition doesn't come from your body, it comes from somewhere else. But it originates in a body feeling. And so if you do not trust your body feelings, you cannot trust your intuition. It's almost impossible to do that. And it was not until I healed my relationship with food in my body, that my intuitive, like intuitive abilities blew wide open. It was because that was being blocked. Because I wasn't listening to any of it. I wasn't listening to my hunger cues, I wasn't listening to my fullness cues, I wasn't listening to my body when it said I don't like that food. And on it. That's a very basic level of intuition. So we have to heal our relationship with food and body, we have to stop dieting. Because that breaks your ability to understand what's going on internally, we're always looking for an external source and external, like, Oh, you're supposed to eat this many calories per day, you're supposed to eat this many grams of carbs per day, if you go over this, you're going to gain weight. The reality is, is that all of those guidelines are accurate on an individual level. And they're not accurate on an individual level. Because your body takes so many different twists and turns to lower your metabolism to change based on where your mental status is where your stresses all of these things. So you really the only way that you're going to really truly be healthy and happy in your life is to go inward, not outward. Cara Dempsey 33:52 It is yeah. I mean, I always put so much into what other people thought of me and what other people expected of me. And, you know, I think that goes back to being a hairdresser for 19 years. I loved my clients. I love the idea of it. But I got so burnt out because I wasn't listening to my body. I would power through the day and not use the restroom, I would power through the day and not feed myself the nutrition and just even give my myself a moment to gather clear the energy and space to move on with the next client. And you know, looking back it was not only unfair to me, it was unfair to my clients and everything like that. So I think it is when we don't give our bodies the love and attention that it needs. It will affect those other people in our life. It always has to kind of start within I very powerfully believe in that Claudia Thompson 34:52 100% And that's that's something I tell all of my clients like you cannot pour from an empty cup Your job in this lifetime is to take care of yourself so amazingly, that you're vibrating at such a high level, your cup is completely full that it's just spilling over to the rest of us. We want the best of you in order. And in order for you to give the best, you have to have boundaries, you have to take care of yourself, you have to honor your body cues, you have to feed yourself when you're hungry. You have to rest when you need rest. Rest is not a bad thing. I know that this like hustle culture that we live in, makes us feel guilty for taking days where it's like, I just need to chill. That is okay. You're meant to do that. You're not You're not a robot. You can't just even even a robot has to have its batteries recharged. Cara Dempsey 35:56 Yes. I mean, there's so much to that. I think it's so hard because so much of my life. I've always been in this, you know, I had bosses that were like, unless if you have a note that from your doctor, you cannot call out and it's just like, you know, sometimes you need a mental break. Sometimes you need a physical break. And if my body's telling me I need a break, I honestly feel like I need to honor that. And I know for me, I've had the ability to kind of stop my career, take a moment to take a breath, try and figure out what feels good to me start a business that feels good to me. But I know not a lot of women have that opportunity. And so when I tried to explain, and I found that, you know, people, they'll be ready for the message when they're ready for it. So you can't really like force that message on people when they're not ready for it. But you know, how do you say how important this is, but they have a full time job they have, you know, they're overwhelmed in life. And they don't really know where to start with that. Claudia Thompson 37:02 You pick something small, you pick something small, that's manageable. Change can be made by either either making a really drastic major overhaul, or it can be done with a lot of little things. And it can be done with a combination of both. And everybody is at a different place. And everybody's journey is different. And some people start with major overhauls. Some people start with little things, and then a medium overhaul and their life. So it's figuring out where somebody is and what they can decide to do each day that moves them in the right direction. Because at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how fast we move, it doesn't matter how quickly you make a massive leap. What matters is that you're moving in the right direction. And that direction is your highest and best self. And so it's making decisions for you every day that makes you feel happy and joyous, no matter how small or how big. Cara Dempsey 38:08 Yeah, and you don't want it to feel overwhelming, because if they any point they feel overwhelming in that journey, they're probably going to retract and go back to what feels safe and normal to them. Claudia Thompson 38:19 So here's the thing, no matter how small or how big, it's gonna feel overwhelming, because it is something you're doing something different from what your subconscious brain is used to. And anything that's different to your subconscious brain, it's going to make you feel anxious and overwhelmed, on different like different levels, obviously. But it's still going to give you that same underlying feeling. And that's because it wants you to stay the same because it only understands the same as safe. And once you understand that, that's what you're working with. You go oh, okay, these feelings are gonna happen. And I'm gonna have to feel these feelings. But the more that I I stick with this, these feelings dissipate. Because the new becomes the known. Yeah, Cara Dempsey 39:07 yeah, definitely. I think, for me personally, and like you said, I know everybody's journey is different. But I think I always had this idea of put, you know, the hustle culture pushing myself through. And I realized that I had this like cyclical pattern of pushing myself through right before my period, because my period hadn't started. I didn't think I had the permission to rest even though my body was telling me, hey, hey, something's coming. Let's take a moment and take a moment to retract. And so I think, to finding ways to understand your own body and allowing that to happen, you know, I had this certain expectation of what my body was supposed to do, but that it's my body. I don't have I don't get to tell it what it's supposed to do. It's going to tell me and so for me, that was Such a healing power to understand the certain things that kept happening every month because it wasn't happening on my period, I never realized it was a reoccurring pattern. And once I allowed my body that rest or that nourishment I needed at certain times, it felt like my body was like, Yes, this is what I've been needing from you, this is what you've been pushing down and ignoring for 20 plus years, you know, Claudia Thompson 40:25 Yeah, cuz we're not taught to listen to our bodies, we're taught to listen to societal standards. And I mean, I got, even for me, I've worked for myself for a very, very long time. And so I get to organize my day, in a way, that makes me happy, that makes me feel productive. But there was a very long period of time that I had overwhelming guilt about that every day, because it's like, oh, you're not successful, unless you get up at 6am. And you start grinding for 12 hours. No success, for me is not having an alarm, I can wake up when my body wants to wake up. And that's a beautiful thing. That's something we should celebrate, there's like, so many ways you can define success. And success is not grinding and burning yourself out and completely ignoring your body and then getting, you know, 20 years of work in at the same job and things like that kind of culture is being broken down day by day. And it makes me so happy. Cara Dempsey 41:34 Me too. I definitely was in burnout. Before I stopped my career. It was I had a very hard two years. And I actually just found out that it takes someone three to five years to recover from burnout. And going into that topic, how many people work, work, work, work, work, and then their excuses, they're going to go on this vacation, or they're going to go to the spa for a day. And it's like going to the spa for a day is not going to recover you from burnout. It's those little micro habits you embed into your daily life that you listen to your body, you give it to the nutrients it needs, you give it the rest, you journal, whatever it is to kind of help honor your own self. And it took me a lot to realize, because I would be like, Okay, I'm just gonna work like a dog, and then I'll go get a massage for an hour, and it's like, an hour, an hour ain't gonna do it, you know? Claudia Thompson 42:32 Yeah, it's not gonna do it, because you spent how many hours burning yourself out, and you think one hour is gonna do it. And that's that goes hand in hand with healing your relationship with food and your body and healing through trauma, like changing your limiting beliefs. And that subconscious brain and actually living the life that you want to live. The thing is, is we think, Oh, we don't have results in a couple of hours. We don't have results in a couple of days. Okay, well, you could have spent 20 30 40 50 60 years doing these same behaviors, and you think you're gonna change them overnight. That's not the way it works. This takes this takes work, is it gonna take you as long as you participated in it? Absolutely not. But it might take a year or two, to work through these things. And to move through these things. I know, it took me a solid year to heal my relationship with food and my body, and probably another year to really heal my relationship with myself talk. Because in that process, I heal my relationship with food and body. And then I saw how toxic my home environment was. And then I got a divorce. And that takes two years to heal from. Because you literally have to grieve a life that's no longer yours. And so there could be years of, of healing, of resting, of working through things to get to the place that you want to be. But once you get to the place that you want to be you you got there, you did it, you move through that, and you're no longer that version of yourself that struggled with all of those things, is life going to be perfect? No. But when challenges come across your path, you handle them differently. You see them differently, you move through them at like lightning speed. So I always tell my clients this is about shortening the refractory period of these things. So if we take something like a binge eating incident, like so we have the binge eating incident, and you you binge for hours, maybe you binge for days, and then you get to this point where you realize what had happened and you look back on it, and if it took you days, healing is okay. Now this took you less days. Now this took you hours. Now this took you 15 minutes. Now you get the urge to go do that and you realize immediately, that's not what I should be doing and you choose differently, that is healing is shortening that refractory period of those things that we use as an inappropriate coping mechanism to deal with our lives. Yeah, Cara Dempsey 45:24 definitely. And I think, and I don't know your feelings on this, but I certainly believe that trauma is stored in the body and not honoring that. So like going through a divorce going through these challenging life, you know, experiences, you need to figure out a way to get it out of your body, Claudia Thompson 45:42 it's absolutely stored in your body. Because the thing is, is that when you register a trauma response, and that's whether that's a capital T trauma, like a very large trauma, or even a lowercase trauma, so somebody picked on you, somebody, somebody hurt your feelings on a on a lower level, like that's a that's a small trauma. And so we need to understand that all of these traumas cause physical reactions in our bodies, our neural networks go, Oh, she's shoving a trauma, like we have to increase anxiety, or we have to increase worry, we have to do this, we have to do that. And that wires, reactions in your, in your brain to your body. And if these things continue enough, your body will react before your brain does. And so you have to move these things out of your body. Things like stretching using foam rollers, you would be shocked at how much you can actually get out. I mean, I remember, not even six months ago, I was in a yoga class. And we were heavily using the foam rollers on our IT bands. And I don't even understand what happened in the moment. But I just bawling my eyes out whatever that was needed to come out. And we store those things. And then you have you have tight muscles, you have back pain, you your spine becomes unaligned all kinds, like you end up with autoimmune disease, all kinds of things because we're not moving that energy out of our body, because emotions are energy in motion. And so if you're not dealing with your emotions, you are storing them in your body in places. Cara Dempsey 47:30 Definitely, I feel like that was a lot of my auto immune issues. I felt like I felt very unsupported. But in my own worlds, like I was not supporting myself, that's where my own support came from. I was expecting everybody else to support me, how can they do that when I'm not doing it for myself. And so I definitely feel that anger trapped inside of me, and it was causing these very uncomfortable symptoms and reactions. And I felt like loving myself and moving my body and listening to my body really helped heal. You know, I think that doctors can be very helpful for someone and what they need. But if they aren't going within themselves in the process of using a doctor, you know, they might get some sort of relief, but those issues will probably still be reoccurring. Claudia Thompson 48:27 Yeah, we need to approach things with a holistic viewpoint in the sense that, yeah, you if you're struggling with some sort of health issue, should you go to your medical doctor? Absolutely. But you should also explore where that could be coming from, because a lot of times, the medical doctors don't have an explanation. They have a prescription they can give you to mitigate the symptoms, but they're not actually solving the problem. Because at the end of the day, they don't even know where it's coming from they and that's the case with a lot of autoimmune. It's they're not clearly understood by science, not in a bad way. It's just that it's hard to pinpoint where these things start. Because by the time you you try to study them on people, they've already had these things for years. And we don't it's very hard to measure somebody's like mental status and how they're speaking to themselves. And what stories have they told themselves? What environment did they come from? That's a very complicated way to do medical research. And so a lot of it's just simply not done because it's complicated. And it's very expensive to do those kinds of studies. And I think we're starting to see a lot of cool research come through about how you think and how you feel really does affect your physical body. Cara Dempsey 49:52 Definitely. I feel like some of the things you touched on I could be jumping to conclusions, but did you read Gabby Bernstein Beans Happy Days or no? Claudia Thompson 50:01 So I haven't read that one, I have another one of her books actually, I'm like halfway through it. That one just came out the happy days just came out, I actually saw a research presentation from Dr. Joe Dispenza. That was very interesting, because he's doing a lot of scientific research on on meditation and how it affects your immune system. So they're actually measuring different molecules in the body that are being produced by regular meditators versus people that don't regularly meditate and how that alters your immune system and alters your genes. It's really interesting work that they're doing with them. I believe it's University of San Diego. Cara Dempsey 50:43 Yeah, I'm a huge component of meditation, I found a lot of things for myself, anytime. I, I didn't think things applied to me. Meditation, happy days. There was another one Oh, the mountain is you. I don't know if you've heard of that book. But those are just things that I'm like, I don't know, if it really applies to me, but I still decided to read it or do it. And they've changed my life, you know. And so I think sometimes when people have this perception of that's not for me, you know, they're telling themselves that and, you know, sometimes being open to things that you might not be normally receptive of should give it a shot and see how it does. I know that that's a Claudia Thompson 51:30 limiting belief. Yeah. And that's, and to be honest, that limiting belief, that's, that's the program in your subconscious, you're the program and the subconscious is saying, that's not for me. And it's saying, that's not for me, because if it's not for you, you stay where you are, and that is safe. And for some people, that statement that's not for me, runs extremely strong in their subconscious. And that's where you get people who are who we typically typically call, you know, not open minded and things like that. But it's not because they're not open minded. It's because their brain is operating from a program that says, None of this is for me, I'm separate from everyone else. Cara Dempsey 52:17 Yeah, yeah. I mean, it took it tooks very, it took practice, you know, they always say that things are worthwhile, take practice, to kind of get to a point. And some days, I feel very connected, meditating. And some days I don't, but I know, for my best self, to be the best, you know, person, mom, wife, whatever I need to be in the moment, meditation is exactly what I need to be. And I tried to do it daily. But you know, some days that doesn't happen. Claudia Thompson 52:49 I honestly just went five days without meditating. And that was the longest I've gone without meditating in over a year. And I did not feel right. So no, it's something that you have to do on a on a regular daily basis. And the thing is, is getting quiet, allows you to listen to your intuition and allows you to see what's going to float to the surface. And most people don't take the time to get quiet. And a lot of people say, Well, I don't have I don't have 15 minutes to do that. And I don't remember who it was Deepak Chopra, or some somebody said, in response to that. Well, if you don't have 15 minutes, you better schedule 30. Yeah, Cara Dempsey 53:34 it's yeah, I definitely agree with that. I mean, it's, there's so many times, it's like, I'm sure you want on social media today. You know, I'm sure there's something that you've done to take up your time and your energy that wasn't for your highest good that, you know, took that time. So sometimes, you got to make that a priority. I know that we both kind of have the spiritual connection that's necessary for people to have to be able to connect with their intuition. Do you feel like there needs to be a spiritual connection? Claudia Thompson 54:07 I feel up to a point. No, I feel like if, say someone is struggling with food in their body, and they heal that. And so they are listening to that body intuition. More and more. There comes a tipping point, though, where if you don't have faith, or a belief in things you cannot see, how can you trust a feeling to guide you through your life? I think it can be very complex. I don't necessarily think somebody has to have a specific religion or but there has to be a belief in the things that you cannot see. I mean, even if somebody just wants to believe in quantum physics, okay. Please do that because that is explaining a lot of this on a lot of different levels. But I think It's very difficult to develop your intuition at the level that it is meant to function out without the understanding that we're all connected. And this is coming from a place that is beyond us. Cara Dempsey 55:17 Yeah, I wondered, you know, I wonder what that because I was able to connect with my intuition because I developed a spiritual practice. And I don't want to detour anyone who may be afraid to jump into that, I still want to encourage them to find a way that they can connect with their intuition. And you know, I think connecting with your intuition on a surface level level is better than no level, you know what I mean? Oh, 100%. Claudia Thompson 55:45 And if even if you're only connecting on your intuition at the level, that's like, Okay, I'm listening to my hunger and fullness cues. My body said, it doesn't like this food. So I'm gonna go ahead and tap out of that. It's, it's when you get to the part that tells you, I just met this person, and something is off, huh, I don't really feel like I should be in this place or space right now. And I'm not really sure. When you, when you start to investigate the patterns in your life and the people that show up in your life and the synchronicities in those, it becomes a lot more complex. And I think a spiritual practice is important in the sense that it, it allows you to release control of the situation because you're not in control of the situation. Cara Dempsey 56:36 100% I feel like a lot of my reoccurring issues, is not feeling in control. And trying to gain control is where life felt hard. And it was the moment that I let that go and just said, you know, I trust I surrender and, you know, guide me as I need to go. And that's when my my life personally felt like there was this smudge lifted, and I was going, you know, going with the flow. So that definitely makes sense is I feel like anybody that has a lot of reoccurring issues, you know, look at where they're trying to control too much, and maybe kind of take a step back and take a breath. Claudia Thompson 57:25 Yeah, we have to release the control, we have to, we have to understand that the things that are happening in our lives aren't happening to us, they are happening for us. This is an orchestrated system to get you to move past the things you're struggling with to get to that place where it's like happiness, joyful bliss, that you're living the life that feels really authentic to you and brings you joy, and your cup is over flowing, and you're giving back to the rest of us. That is the point. The point is not to struggle, the point is to learn through the struggle and move past it, it's not to stay in it. And when we try to control everything, we have a tendency to stay in that struggle. It's only when you release when you understand that, okay, this isn't happening to me, this is happening for me. And that's where that faith in something that you cannot see really, really comes into play. And I have to say, for anyone that's like nervous about that, I get it. I get it. Okay, my spiritual practice developed over years. I didn't like other than, you know, I wasn't, I wasn't religious, I was very much like, oh, well, I mean, you know, religions, there are many paths up the same mountain. You know, I always believed in something but I never really fully understood what that was until I started meditating and do and I, and doing those kinds of things. But I didn't go into meditating to develop a spiritual part practice, I went into meditating, to understand myself, and to remove the subconscious beliefs that were no longer serving me. And as a result of that, I developed a very deep spiritual practice on accident. Cara Dempsey 59:15 Same that's exactly I feel like you described exactly how I got to my spiritual practice as well. It was did not wake up and become spiritual, then meditate, you know, meditation, guided me there. And so I'm forever grateful for the meditation, I highly recommend it. Claudia Thompson 59:33 Yeah, absolutely. It takes you to that quiet space, where you can actually receive the messages from where we all originate from. And that's, that's a very cool experience. And I have to say like, it will develop as it's as it's meant to be on your path, it will open up the way that it should for you like your unique journey in this is going to be different than everyone else's. And so you don't want to compare spiritual journeys. In the sense of like, I think some people after a certain level of have a tendency to gain to jump back into that control. And you have to you have to release and let go. And that can be very difficult because I've very much wanted to control it uncertain. And I'm like, why is this happening? Oh, my goodness. But it just, you have to let it ebb and flow and see where it goes on its own. Because we're if life truly is happening for us, and not to us, it should feel much more like floating on a raft downstream instead of trying to paddle upstream. Cara Dempsey 1:00:34 Yes, 100%. That's exactly where I was previously. And I feel like, you know, you're still hit some, some rocks or boulders down the river. But it feels easier. Like you said before, the time of recovery is a lot shorter in those bumps. And, you know, I'm grateful for that, because I used to hold on to things way longer than I needed to hold on to them, and they didn't serve me or anyone around me. Claudia Thompson 1:01:01 Absolutely. And I have to say, I think because you brought up Gabby Bernstein. I actually I don't know if you've noticed on her social media account. But this was actually something that really showed me how you can move through trauma with that really small refractory period. Because earlier this year, I don't know if you saw but she lost a baby. And I'm sure that was deeply, deeply hurtful to her, obviously, and suffering a loss like that is something that would take down a lot of people. And she rebounded really fast. And not rebounded in like, Oh, it didn't happen. It was more like this is this is very sad. This is not what I wanted. But life is happening for me, not to me. And this happened for a reason. And I understand that it's not in my control. And so I'm gonna continue to move forward in a way that is healthy and happy for all of us that are still there. And watching that happen. Like that gave me so much. I don't know the strength in that was was was amazing. And then also the deep faith. Having faith like that is that allows you to move through your life and most happiest joy, a joyful way that you possibly can. Cara Dempsey 1:02:36 Yeah, she really puts a lot of, and I don't want to just call it good content, because that's, that's like, taking it down. You know what I mean? She really puts it out there. And I've enjoyed a lot of her stuff. And I'd recommend anyone to read Happy Days, like I said, I didn't think it applied to me, but I think it really helps understand that certain big traumas, little traumas happen in your life and being able to give space and honor that and just kind of move through it. You know, I think anytime we don't let a situation process out, we kind of shove it deep down in, it's going to, it's going to come out in another way. And that other way is not going to be beneficial for us. It will hurt us in some way or another. Yes. And that was it. She called me out a lot in that book where I was like, oh, okay, all right. I have some more work to do. Claudia Thompson 1:03:32 Yeah, that's where those unhealthy coping mechanisms come in. Yeah, but the thing is, is like, the people who are in that position to make you feel like oh, I was just seeing, I was just called out, they're only able to do that, because they experienced that themselves. And that's why, you know, I move forward, the way that I move forward with my clients and my coaching programs and all of that, because I've, I've walked this path, and when you've walked this path, you can you can be the lantern for somebody else who's walking the same rocky path, but you can't lead somebody down a path, you haven't walked yourself, you just cannot. And so that's the difference between an truly authentic healer, and someone who's just pretending you have to have walked the path because you don't understand the pain. You don't understand how hard it is to move through those things until you have had to do it yourself. And that, for me is a big reason why all the things that I've been through in my life, all of the trauma that I've been through in my life, I understand that that was all meant to happen. Because if that didn't happen, I wouldn't be able to help people move through these things. That's just not something I would have been capable of doing. And so we have to look at our our pain or trauma as an opportunity for our future selves, because it's happening to you for a reason, because you need to learn from it. Because you're likely going to be able to help somebody else in some way, whether that's on a big platform or just helping your best friend or whatever. Like, that gives you the perspective and the understanding of what it's like to move through those things. Cara Dempsey 1:05:18 Definitely. And you're right, like, just feeling seen is a big way, you know, someone might not even take your services, do your courses, buy your books, whatever it may be. But you know, that if you're helping them feel seen, it will help them maybe take that one little step forward of whatever it's going to be. Claudia Thompson 1:05:40 Yeah, I mean, for, for people like me who do content creation on the internet, the vast majority of people are not buying our services, or our clients or anything like that. So we show up every day, to help people heal, without any guarantee of any return whatsoever at all. And I will continue to do that until I can't do that any longer. Because, yeah, if it helps one person that whose name I may not even ever know. That's amazing. Cara Dempsey 1:06:15 Yeah, definitely. And I mean, that just shows that there's so many people out there who are just trying to help in any way that they can. And, you know, that's just great that there's so many lightworkers, whatever resonates with, you know, resonates with you. And that I did want to ask if there was a time in your childhood, that you could go back and tell this child, whatever age you choose, you know, what would you what would you say, looking back now, Claudia Thompson 1:06:45 oh, my God, I've done this so many times. So it's actually real, this is actually a really actionable thing that you can do. So what I learned is that, if you can take the time to sit and imagine yourself, going back to an early vert earlier version of yourself, and maybe just creeping up on that version of yourself and seeing them in that moment, and whispering in their ear, it's going to be okay, you're going to make it through this. And it's not going to be so hard anymore. Something that simple, allows the future versions of yourself to do the same thing to your current version. And so I've done that a lot in a lot of different times and spaces in my life, because I've had a lot of times where I felt unsafe and scared. And the future was very unclear. So going back to that version, and saying, Hey, you're going to make it through this, and it's going to be amazing, and it's going to look crazier and better than you've ever imagined. Cara Dempsey 1:07:53 And it's showing yourself that support, you know, I've no, I mentioned before, of not feeling supported, and I've felt more support in my life now, because I'm showing up for myself every day. And you know, you got to do that for yourself. You can't rely on those external things. And you know, that external will come in due time when people see that light you're bringing in within yourself, you know, and I think giving that child connection with with when you were a child is a big a big part of it. Claudia Thompson 1:08:25 Yeah, I mean, the people that are meant to support you will show up, but you need to be the version of yourself that allows them to show up. Cara Dempsey 1:08:33 Yeah, you can't shut yourself out. That was a reoccurring thing that I always played on myself is when I felt unsafe or not heard, I would then shut out more. And, you know, we do the best we can with what we got at the time. So Claudia Thompson 1:08:49 Oh, 100% 100%. And a lot of healing is just done by yourself. I mean, that's the reality of it. You know, that's self self. It's called self love for a reason. Because you have to work on it on your own. Cara Dempsey 1:09:02 It's yeah, no one can help you with that. I mean, people might be able to give you the actionable steps. Yeah, they can Claudia Thompson 1:09:08 give you tips that, yeah. But it's you that has to do the hard work of taking those steps and moving forward and taking those like little bits of action every day towards that. And that's hard. Yeah, you got to show up. And how you show up every day is gonna look different. And you have to give yourself grace in that too. Cara Dempsey 1:09:28 You got to show up on the hard days. Yeah, I used to think that I would have to do this and do that and wake up and have this like, strict thing. And I've come to more of a flowing type of daily steps and it feels a lot better that if I don't meditate, if I don't do those things, you know, it's not the end of the worlds I can I can find something else that made me feel better in that day. So I have a couple questions to kind of help us wrap up. Is there anything that our listeners can take home today to work on the relationship Put food, Claudia Thompson 1:10:00 they may just start learning to listen to their body. When you learn to listen to your body, you honor your hunger cues, and hunger cues, I want to be really clear, especially if you've had a lot of food rules, you can probably understand when you're super, super hungry, but you probably don't hear the earlier ones. And that's because your body's kind of given up on those because you weren't listening in the first place. And again, it's conserving energy. So it's only going to do what is working. So you want to start thinking to yourself, Okay, well, I'm starting to think about food. If you're starting to think about food, that's an indication that you need to start moving towards the direction of eating some food, because that's a very early on hunger cue that most of us don't. So start listening your hunger cues, start listening to your fullness cues, and know that it's actually okay to feel full. Because most of us feel guilty if we feel full. And we need to understand that that's a normal feeling that we're allowed to have. So start listening to your body, the more you listen to your body, the more you're going to develop a healthy relationship with food in yourself. Cara Dempsey 1:11:08 Yeah, I definitely feel like that's an important step, for sure, definitely need to work on that myself. I know you have the limitless healing membership to support women in their food healing journey, I'd love to hear more about that. Claudia Thompson 1:11:22 Oh, so the limitless healing program is actually a new program. So the VIP diet rescue group coaching program is specifically for women. But the limitless healing group is open to everybody. And it's open to everybody. Because the process by which I take you through healing your relationship with food and your body is the same process that you need to heal from any little T or large T trauma. So it is the same process moving forward. So that group is it's actually it's my most affordable option, because the individual one on one, I have individual one on one coaching. And that is an investment along with the 12 week group coaching program that I have for women only. That is a women only group because I feel like that's the most supportive environment to work through these issues on these group coaching calls. But the limitless healing group that a very affordable option and you get weekly guided lessons, you get weekly activity worksheets, because we have to take action in our own healing in order to actually move forward. So we have our guided lessons, we have weekly activities, we have a weekly reflection, because it's really important to assess our wins all of those things, even if they're very small as we're moving forward, because a step forward is still a step forward, no matter how small. And then you also get a weekly affirmation to go ahead and focus your, your healing journey as you're moving forward. And every week, the content is specifically geared towards towards healing. And if it doesn't matter, you can go at your own pace. So if you're not done working through like changing your subconscious beliefs in one week, that's completely okay. Because all of the information is archived. And so you can move along at your own pace. And it's really just a wonderful library and resource for the healing journey in general. Cara Dempsey 1:13:20 That sounds really supportive. And I know that would help a lot of women and men in their journey to just get to a point of healing. Because ultimately, I feel like if there's no healing behind it, you're gonna limit your growth in life. Yeah, absolutely. Because Claudia Thompson 1:13:37 the thing is, is when we're healing our relationship with food and body, it's not about the food. It's never about the food. It's always the underlying thoughts, beliefs, things we were taught, that we have to work through. And that's the same. Whether you're struggling with food and body or you're struggling in a career you don't like, there are reasons that we do those things. And those underlying reasons are what we need to heal. So with the with the membership, it's a monthly membership, and you get this, you get those guided lessons, the activity sheets, the weekly reflect reflections, the affirmations and everything every week. And then twice a month, I go live for a live q&a session on zoom in the group for all of the members. So you're able to ask me direct questions on your specific journey, all of that. That's an amazing bang for your buck, because I've priced it at $33.33 a month for the monthly membership and a one hour coaching call with these $200. So I think that this is really an affordable resource for those on the healing journey because I wanted to make it more accessible for everyone. Because I understand everybody has different financial situations and things like that. I wanted more people to be able to heal. Cara Dempsey 1:14:49 Yeah, well, that's great that you're doing that. I know that you're definitely going to help people in their journey and I appreciate you and I love the content. Claudia Thompson 1:15:00 I appreciate I'm glad I'm glad we fully embraced our card of the day. Not being too perfectionist with this podcast. Cara Dempsey 1:15:09 I know. Well, thanks for coming on my show. I really appreciate it and we'll chat soon my friend. Bye everyone. Wow I really love that I got to reconnect with Claudia we went to high school together and we haven't seen each other and over 20 years, she popped up on my FYP on Tik Tok and I love the content she brings, I'd highly recommend giving her a follow on Tik Tok and Instagram. Her handle is at Dr. Claudia Thompson on both platforms. To find out more about her coaching and membership options, please go to Dr. Claudia thompson.com. I'll have her links in the show notes along with the books mentioned in this episode. Before you go make sure you subscribe to the podcast to receive new episodes right when they're released. Thank you again for joining me in this episode of Floductivity and until next time, my friend Transcribed by https://otter.ai